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Details of elective programs of some US universities

INSTITUTIONS THAT NEITHER REQUIRE STEP 1/ TOEFL, NOR HAVE ANY FEES:
These are the ones  which are least in  number  because every one is  looking for  them, since they neither have any application fee nor  have  any tuition  fee.

ALBANY MEDICAL COLLEGE (AMC), ALBANY, NEW YORK
Located in the  capital of New York State, Albany, this  institutions provides  Free  electives  to  foreign  and  international  students. Academic and  teaching  depends  upon  the  Consultant  or Visiting physician  with  whom  you  will  be  associated  during  your  rotation. It  all  depends  upon  your  physician  that  how  he  uses  you  or to  some  extent  that how you  make  yourself  useful  by  your  knowledge, interest and  hard work. It  provides  electives  in  all  the  departments  of  the college.
KNOWN PROBLEMS:
1)    The  college  does not  provide  accommodation  of  its  own, you  will  have  to  find  one  for  yourself.
2)    The  institute  is  not  among the  top most  institutes  of  USA, so you  may  get  visa  rejection.
3) AMC  also  requires  you, like  all  other  institutes of  New york  to  get  a  letter  of  eligibility  from  NY  state  education  department. This  is  not  a  big  problem  and  you  can  easily  get  that  letter  following  instructions  for  that  in  the  specific folder.
4)    AMC  also  states  in the  policy  that  you  need  to  send   along with  your  application  an  English  Language  certificate  from  your  college.
UNIVERSITY OF CONNECTICUT SCHOOL OF MEDICINE
They also don’t have  any  fee, and  have  a  reputed  hospital  named, Hartford Hospital. You  may  need  to  be   very  quick  to  apply  there, because  they  stop  taking  applications  very  early.
KNOWN PROBLEM
They  state  the  policy  of  accepting  the  foreign students,  but  sometime   they  dont  even  respond  on  the  emails.
INSTITUTIONS  THAT DON’T HAVE ANY FEE BUT  REQUIRE  TOEFL  FOR ELECTIVES
If  you  plan   to  take  on  toefl  then  it  will  open  many  institutes  for  you, likewise:
NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF HEALTH(NIH):
It  does  not   have  a  medical  school  of  its  own, so  its  not  mentioned  in  the  website  of   extramural electives compendiu but it  is  a  very  highly reputed  institute  with  programs  associations  with  many  top medical  schools including  John Hopkins  etc. and  has  a  wide  variety  of  research  programs.
Moreover  the   application  procedure  is  simple, you  have  to  send  application  electronically  through  their  website. Then, you  will  have  to  send  your  transcript  and LOR s  by  mail.
You  will also  have  to  give   valid email   address  of  one of  your  college  faculty  members  and  the email  ID  of  Dean of Faculty/ Registrar  for your  reference. They will send the confirmation emails  to  those  email  IDs, and they must get the reply back to confirm your reference or your application will not process.
ADVANTAGE:

  • It  is  widely  known  for  its  research  projects and  you  can  get one  if  you  impress  your consultant  during  your  elective.
  • They  don’t  give  their  own  housing  but   aid  you  by  giving  a  list  of  available  housings  in  the  vicinity.
     UNIVERSITY OF LOUISVILLE SCHOOL OF MEDICINE:
    A  very  good  institute   and  provides  all  the  electives   free   without any cost.
    Last  year,  they  stated  the  policy  on  their  website  about  the  requirement  of  TOEFL.
    But, recently few students  got  electives  there   without  even  taking  the TOEFL.   You  can send a email to their elective  co-ordinator  stating  that  the medium  of  instruction  in  your  institute  is  in  English  and that you will send a  letter for  that  proof  along  with   your  application. So, you  can  take  your  chance  and  if  luck  goes  you may  get  exempted  from  toefl.
    Remember, these  requirements  or  pre requisites  are  only  to  be  checked  by  the  elective  coordinator  and  if  somehow  you succeed in  convincing, you can get yourself exempted from these requirements.
  • GOOD INSTITUTES THAT DON’T HAVE ANY FEES OR VERY LITTLE FEES, REQUIRES USMLE  STEP 1 BUT CAN EXEMPT THIS REQUIREMENT
    MOUNT SINAI SCHOOL OF MEDICINE:
    This  institute  owns  few of  the  top hospitals in  USA. Along with  Cornell, it is  one  of  the  best  medical  schools  in  NY  state. They  have  some   application  fee  around  250-300 dollars.
    They  can  exempt  you  from  USMLE Step 1  if  you  send  them  such  a  waiver  from  registrar  or  any  faculty member requesting  for  your  exemption  from  step 1.
    They  don’t  require  any  sponsor.
    Known Problem
    They  demand  J1  visa  for  their  electives ,  which  is  more  difficult  to get  than  B1/B2  visa. Moreover some people say you get a 2 year country restriction. However I am not sure about it.
  • Anyways, you  can  overcome  this  problem  by  getting  visa  on  the  basis  of letter of another  university you are going for electives before or after this Mount Sinai elective. Once  you  are  in  USA, you  can   do  electives  in  Mount Sinai.
    HENRY FORD HOSPITAL, DETROIT
    It  has a  number  of  hospitals  in  the  Michigan  state,  which  have  good  reputation.
    They  can  also  exempt  you  from  USMLE  step  1 on sending exemption letter   and  also  provide  you  with  housing on payment.
    They  need  you  to  have a   sponsor  from any  of their  faculty  members  before  you  can  apply  there.
    To see 'how to get a sponsor' click here
    UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS AT DALLAS
    They  have  some  affiliation  with  UHS  of  Pakistan. You  can  also  try  your  luck  there. You  can  only  apply   in  the  departments  of  INTERNAL MEDICINE  in  this  institute.
    SOME  OTHER  INSTITUTES THAT DON’T REQUIRE USMLE STEP 1 BUT  HAVE  SOME FEES:
    SUNY DOWNSTATE MEDICAL COLLEGE. NEW YORK:
    They  have  170 dollars  application  fees with 30 $ of NY letter. They  provide  accommodation to  visiting  students  on payment.
    KNOWN PROBLEMS
    They  send  the  acceptance  letter  quite  late. For  example,  If  you  want  to  apply  for  march  electives, your  acceptance  letter  may  come  after  January. So, your  letter may  be  too  late  for  visa.
    They  also  need  letter  of   eligibility  from  NY, State  Education  Department.
    UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS, AT GALVESTON:
    They  have  some application  fees  around  200  dollars.
    But  the  problem  is  that  they  require  you  to  come  on  F1  or  student  visa. F1  visa  is  usually  of  very limited  time  and  the  problem  may  arise  if  you  also  want  to  do  other  electives.
    Again, you  can  get visa  on  the  basis  of  some  other  university  letter.
    UNIVERSITY OF  VERMONT, SCHOOL OF MEDICINE:
    They  only  have  a  100 dollars  fee and have  no  particular  requirement. They don’t  require  toefl  from  students who come from a medical school where   medium  of instruction  is  English.
    KNOWN PROBLEM:
    They  don’t provide  electives  for  the month  of  March  and  April.
    TULANE UNIVERSITY SCHOOL OF MEDICINE:
    They  have  a  300  dollars application  fees  plus  300  dollars  tution  fees.
    KNOWN PROBLEM:
    They  have  not  been  accepting  too  much  students  since the  hurricane  in  their  area, so  your  300  dollars  fees   is  at  risk.
    INSTITUTES  THAT  REQUIRE USMLE 1 AND  HAVE  VERY  LITTLE  OR  NO  FEES
    If  you  have  already  taken USMLE step 1, then  you just  need  to sit back and  relax. Now,  you  have  many many   institutes  open  for  you. Majority  of  the  institutes   have  this  requirement, so  you  have  no shortage of  options…….
    Such  institutes  are:
    CLEVELAND CLINIC  is  the  best  hospital  in  USA. It provides free  electives.
    MAYO CLINIC is  the  2nd  best,  with  300  to  400  dollars  application  fees.
    Other  institutes are:
    University of Cincinnati
    University  of  Alabama
    Albert Einstein college of  medicine (only  have  25 dollars  fees)
    Louisiana state university
    Virginia Commonwealth University School of Medicine
    Wayne State University  and  many  more…….
  • WELL-REPUTED INSTITUTES WHOSE BIGGEST  REQUIREMENT IS THEIR  FEES
    If  you are  ready  to  pay  their  fees,  then  again  you  have  no  shortage  of  elective  institutes.
    YALE UNIVERSITY:
    Their  total  fees  is  3500  dollars   with  accommodation and  malpractice  and  health  insurance  also  included.
    Weil Cornell Medical College
    They have  2200  dollars tuition fees without  accommodation  with 100 dollars  application  fees.
    HARVARD UNIVERSITY
    Very  expensive…….fees of 3100  dollars

choosing between university of louisville and kumc

Greetings umer bhai and anyone else reading.i have been selected in louisville as well as kumc for electives. Ill have to choose between the two. Can u guide me which one is better academically and which ones lor and experience matter more for the residency programs. Thank you.

hi Umarbhai, I am done with

hi Umarbhai,
I am done with step 1 with 260 score and wanna apply for elective but I am not done with toefl so which uni should I go for so that i have maximum chances of acceptnce?????

application for electives without uslme or toeffel .

hi im a terminal year medical student from tunisia . i would like to apply for an elective in the usa but i dont know what to do. should i send the university a letter of motivation or what are the paper required to get an elective???

F1 visa

hi,

I am a final year medical student from Pakistan. I  have got acceptance from Mount Sinai school of  medicine for 1 month elective. I have been rejected for F1 visa 1 month back and I am applying again. students from my university who got approval from mount sinai had been facing this situatiion at the visa office that the VO is angry and irritated that i cant give F1 for 1 month elective, Mount sinai is sending applicants n not changing their policy. my frnd applied again, she had her intrview few days back and she had to face d same situation and was given a single port entry visa. but i am very worried as wott if she simply refuses dat mount sinai is not listening to us so v wont give u any visa. can any one help me as wott i can do in these circumstances?

Get B1/B2 visa and then let

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Get B1/B2 visa and then let Mount Sinai people know about it...

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Dear Umar Bhai, Many thx for

Dear Umar Bhai,

Many thx for all the info here!

Bhai i wanted to go for electives in surgery or internal medicine.

Can u please provide me the list of universities which allow international students with out step 1 and  TOEFL and fees upto 1000 $.

please help me .its urgent.

 thank you Bhai

Thanks for your kind words.

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Thanks for your kind words. Visit the following link.

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where exactly to apply ?

hi umar and all other aspirants !!

firstly thank u for all the amazing info provided in ur site !

1. i wanted to know to which univ do we have to apply for clerkships for our particular choice of branch ? for example  which univ's are ideal to do a clerkship in  paediatrics ?

2. how many months in advance shud we apply ?

3. if during the time of application i have not yet completed step 1 but i get my scores before the start of clerkship but after applying , can i send them my scores separately after i get them ?

4. for mr.virat or ayone from india who can answer it, if i extend my internship in order to do clerkship then what should the dean of my college write in the letter as my date of completion of degree ? as i do not know when i shall be finishing my internship as it depends on whether i get clerkship or not?

 thank u !!

Hi Shilpa I will answer this

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Hi Shilpa

I will answer this one for Umar..

1- I think anyone wanting to get electives should try to apply to as many places as practically possible, grab the ones which they get first; suppose you get lucky enough to get selected at many places for the same months and same branches then find about those places and choose the one that you think would best suit you..

2- Every hospital/university has different requirement. It is advisable to start applying while you are in the prefinal year of graduation (4th i.e. final MBBS for Indian students).

3- If the university requires you to apply only if you have a Step-1 score and they are not waiving it for you, then the situation that you have described, will not arise. If they dont require Step-1 scores, its again not helpful to send your scores later on. You may argue that it will improve your CV, ok fine, so apply now and later email them your scores and and updated CV. Yes you can do that !!

4- Your dean should write, "as of now her expected date of grad is MMDDYYYY but if she takes a break to do elective rotations in the US her date of graduation will be extended by the duration of leave taken by her."

This will be a very important document. Get it certified by your dean separately. (btw its Viraat and not Virat :-) )

Hope this will help.

All the best

-Viraat

Thank you Viraat that was

Thank you Viraat that was really helpful :)

I did not know my query got posted as there were some problems, hence the late reply. Thanks again !!

Another question i have is which are the electives comparatively easy to get ?

Hello Shilpa Most of my

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Hello Shilpa

Most of my friends went for rotation in an IM subspecialty, like cardiology, gastro, oncology, hemat, endo. Some went for pediatrics. I went for surgery and neurosurgery, so basically there is no specific branch which I think is extremely difficult to get into for an elective rotation. I think its more of a matter of luck or rather hard luck if you do not get a branch of your choice. And more than what is easier/tougher to get into, your concern should be what to choose so that it later helps you. Try and go to somewhere where they take IMGs for residency coz once you get an elective somewhere you will sure be applying for residency there as your chances of getting there get high. :)

I hope that answers your query..

All the best

-Viraat

mount sinai school of medicine


hi doctors...


i got accepted for electives at mount sinai in the department of neurology for the month of may.. anyone out there who has been to this school?? and most important, thanku umar sir, viraat sir & all others who have helped me in some way or the other in getting into this elective..

hi regarding


hi


regarding northwestern:


website says:


for transcripts: Only original documents will be accepted. Copies, faxes, or scanned documents will not be


accepted. is it okay to send a photocopy of transcript that is attested or does it have to be a original.


mustafa

Better send the original one;

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Better send the original one; not any attested photocopy!

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USMLE for Cleveland Clinic

Dear Anyone who knows

    I would like to go to Cleveland Clinic and have some contacts there. They might help me to get elective there but will I still need USMLE? My university provides an official USMLE exemption letter saying that I am competent in all fields covered by the USMLE. Will this be enough? 

You need to confirm it from

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You need to confirm it from the elective co-ordinator. Only he/she can provide you the answer to this question and guide you!

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Staten Island University Hospital

Anybody whose been in New York know about SIUH. is this good place for elective. Will it make problem for visa acceptance coz like Amc electives get rejected easily during visa interview.

hi umar. im recently geting

hi umar. im recently geting to know abt these electives and all...while applying for the electives do v need to give the dates or months when v want to hav the electives or they give the dates? help me out plz

Varies from place to place...

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Varies from place to place... some places have their own calendar dates while others give you the liberty of selecting your own dates!

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Hi, umar bhai regarding

Hi, umar bhai regarding Professional liability insurance and personal health coverage, for the application of NIH, What should one be doing if their school does not provide one?

You can get health coverage

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You can get health coverage from any company and for liability insurance... use academicins.

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Cleveland Clinic Toefl.

Dear Umar Bhai,
Many thx for all the info here!
I have passed my USMLE step1 exam.
I would now like to apply at the Cleveland Clinic, Ohio.
I would be grateful in you can tell me whether it is mandatory for me to pass TOEFL in order to apply for the rotation despite of the fact that the mode of teaching in my institution is entirely in English and I have good grades in my O levels and A levels examinations (Cambridge International Examinations)?
Moreover, do you know the time within which i can expect a response after sending in my application.
Lastly, is liability insurance same as malpractice insurance? & from where & how can i get it??
Thank you for the cooperation.

I have done my elective

I have done my elective there, the elective coordinator: Pat gasser  is quiet strict, and she is juggling with a tone of applications all the time. I dont think she will agree to TOEFL sparing as you will be compared to other applicants with similar credentials, She is also strict abt malpratice insurance.  Criminal background chk is NOT optional, you can obtain a Character Certificate from your district police or have your University Dean write a letter validating your flawless criminal background.


Attendings there are VERY FAMOUS, especially for Surgical specialties, You will find Fellows there from Duke, Brigham and other reputed places. So the environment is rich for makin future contacts ! my advise : if ur amog the fortunate to have taken your step 1 in time, then also do not be afraid of  the pain to fulfil other requirements.


Good luck !

Does Cleveland Clinic provide

Does Cleveland Clinic provide free accommodation to elective students? their website says "No housing is provided. Students are responsible for their own accommodations."

Thanks for your kind words.

umar's picture

Thanks for your kind words. It is not mandatory to pass TOEFL. No one can give you any time frame for response to application. Yes liability insurance is same. I would recommend academicins.

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Thank you for the reply. Can

Thank you for the reply.

Can you also tell me if The Cleveland Clinic is International Medical Student/Graduate friendly?

And, is it mandatory to provide criminal background check even if one has no criminal record?

 Thanks and thumbs up for the awesome infoz on this site!

Thanks for your kind words. I

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Thanks for your kind words.

I am not sure... someone else can comment on it!

Criminal background check is not mandatory but it is a certification of no criminal record...

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This is in regard to

This is in regard to Louisville School of Medicine. They explicitly stated that visa requirement is "J1"  without any Exceptions. And also they take student only  from schools which have association with them and their are schools in india that have association with them like University College Of Medical Sciences & GTBH, University of Delhi. But the main hurdle is J1 visa requirement. 

Thanks for the update. Just

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Thanks for the update. Just modified the mentioned information!

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This is regard to University

This is regard to University of Texas Medical Branch, Galveston. They only accept student only from schools to which they have "association " and their is no school in India and Pakistan that they have any association.So we cant apply there.

Mount sinai medical school

Mount sinai medical school only sponsor F 1 not J1 as mentioned above in the description and also if you are doing a elective in some other place on B1/B2 before joining mount sinai, they wouldn't allow you to change your status from B1/B2 to F1, 

so if you are going to mount sinai, get your F1 visa stampled in your country and then leave so that you can change your visa from B1/B2 to F1(if you happen to have elective before mount sinai on B1/B2) by going to either Canada ( which require visa, so get that visa too in your country) or to maxico(which doesnt require visa from Indian Nationals)

mount sinai also dont allow you to do elective elsewhere if your F1 is sponsered by them.

Thanks for the update!

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Thanks for the update!

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HI TANX 4 THE

HI TANX 4 THE INFO...............CAN U TELL WHICH IS EASIER CHANGING B1 TO F1 OR F1 TO B1??

ALSO I HAVE BAYLOR IN JAN ND MT SINAI IN FEB, BOTH REQUIRES F1 SO WHAT TO DO??

If both are on F1 then it

If both are on F1 then it shouldnt be a problem as you have the option of changing your school on F1 without any fee. so contact the International Personnel office there.

As far as change of Status is concerned i dont know which one easy or not but i know that if you change from B1/B2 to F1 you have to pay 300 USD as Processing fee and  have to fill a form (form 537 or 538 ,dont remember that well, but u should check the website)you have to make the request before quite a significant time and process do take quite a lot of time.So plan ahead.

For more you should go to website of US immigration they have a whole section on that.

hey i had a query...all

hey i had a query...all universities require that we complete our CORE clerkships in medicine, surgery, OB GYN, paeds, psychiatry...is there a minimum number of weeks of clinical rotations that we mustve completed to be eligible...cuz my trasnscript mentions the weeks that ive covered in each rotation....does anyone know that minimum requiremnet?

well replied ayaz! As far as

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well replied ayaz!

As far as I remember the minimum requirements are as follows but these may vary:

Medicine 8 weeks

Surgery 8 weeks

Gynae-Obs 8 weeks

Paeds 4 weeks

Psychiatry 4 weeks

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Dear Ahmed

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Universities that typically require specific minimum number of weeks would have that written in detail on their application forms. For example Northwestern University has a specific minimum number of weeks required for certain clerkships to qualify for a clinical elective there.

Typically atleast 8 weeks in all but psychiatry should be fine.

@ all Now SUNY requires

@ all

Now SUNY requires Step-1 scores for elective application.

thanks for the update.....

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thanks for the update..... can you please provide a reference link... thanks!

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http://sls.downstate.edu/regi

thanks a lot for your

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thanks a lot for your valuable contribution.... I would soon modify the list.... thanks once again viraat!

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My pleasure.. I am just

My pleasure.. I am just helping rotate the wheel which u put into motion.. :)

3 clerkships

hi everyone.

i had this doubt about what priyanka had to face.

so if i get to do 3 clerkships, it'll be for a period above 90 days obviously.

does that mean i wont be able to get a b1 visa?

I don't think it would be a

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I don't think it would be a big deal... there must be someway out... someone else can comment otherwise... 

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more than 3 months of B1 is possible

I am sorry for the late reply here. Umar Bhai, you are right. It is possible that we could get a B1 for more than 90 days. I am saying this from my personal experience. I am in the US for 4 electives and I was supposed to be at NIH in the 4th month of my US visit. I explained this problem to the immigration officer and so she took me to the higher officials to discuss this matter. They called up NIH to cross check me and finally, granted me 5 months of B1 Visa! My portal of entry was Detroit. Hope this helps.

Thanks for your contribution

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Thanks for your contribution Swapnil. I myself know many people who stayed for more than 3 months. 

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electives at KUMC

Hi Umar Bhai

God bless you for doing such a nice job on this website. It shall all return to you in every form. I have been approved by Kansas University Medical Center for electives in the Dept. of Surgery. Do you have any idea of how this University is? I have never heard of anyone going to KUMC before. They require an F1 visa and have issued my I 20. KUMC was the first university I had applied to and luckily got selected. Should I start with the Visa application or wait for some time and see if I get opportunities for any other University? Please comment.

Thanks a lot in advance and gudluck

Viraat

Hi Viraat Harsha,      Can u

Hi Viraat Harsha,

     Can u plz tell me what are the requirements for applying to KUMC . To inform u i im not done with my USMLE step 1 o TOEFL.plz kinlhy help me by providing information.

Hello Sky They keep changing

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Hello Sky

They keep changing the requirements every year. For me I was just needed to take TOEFL. For the latest, please visit www.kumc.edu and see if they have any new requirements. Of course other than these they will want some paper work..

All the best

-Viraat

plz help!!!

Hi Viraat,

I applied for KUMC and got a mail from them saying that they don't have any vacant slots till June 2012 !!!

what to do?? Please help..

Enquiry for elective rotation

Hi guys

i have a q regarding the application form for KMU

The application form asks for a prospective date of completion of M.D. whereas I am currently doing my graduation i.e. Bachelor of medicine Bachelor of surgery. Kindly clarify

thank you


MD is equivalent to MBBS...

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MD is equivalent to MBBS... so you can certainly mention the data of your graduation...

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Thank you very much.I had

Thank you very much.I had another question regarding the same form.It's that the prospective date of completion of my mbbs course is in jan next year but i intend to go for an elective in feb after taking a break in my internshio for 2 months.The dilemma which i have is that should i fill in the prospective date as the 1st of jan or the 1st of april? coz if i fill it as the 1st of jan there's every chance of them thinking that i will be a graduate by the time i want to do an elective i.e. in feb and thus not qualify for an elective.So what should i fill in the form as my date of graduation??

brother what u can do is get

brother what u can do is get a certificate from ur dean that if u break internship for doing electives elsewhere then ur internship will b extended by the duration of leave taken by you, and hence ur graduation date which is as of now xyz will then be delayed by the same duration. this should work. all the best.

-viraat

thanks viraat

thanks viraat

well replied viraat......

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well replied viraat...... honestly speaking I am myself not aware of this internship stuff... so I am not the right person to comment on this... anyhow thank God we have people like viraat, medisid, vaibhav from India who can guide people from India regarding internship issues.... thanks guys!

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you are most welcome..!!

you are most welcome..!!

hi virat , i have a question

hi virat , i have a question for you

1] when did u apply and for which dates?

2] r u a green card holder?

3] r  u graduating in 2010 or 2011?

this wud help me in predicting my chances of gettn an elective.

txs

1. applied in march for july

1. applied in march for july aug

2. not a green card holder

3. graduating in 2010 october

Hey hi , can u confirm me

Hey hi , can u confirm me that does it require toefl as a mandatory requirement or they can waive it as well?

@ viraat

hi viraat,

I did an elective at KUMC in february...it's a good place and the best part is that they provide accommodation. My elective was in cardiology, but I know someone who rotated in surgery. It was a good experience...go for it!

hey i applied for elective in

hey i applied for elective in internal medicine at kumc..im interested in doing the elctive in summer 2013.i filled an online application from as it said that international students must apply 9mnths earlier.. and after a week i got a reply saying the space has been filled.but i have been placed on the waiting list..

i then emailed this lady Ms laura Zeiger,she said they wont be processing the application till march 2013.

im so confused..do i have a chance of elective there or not..plz reply!

 

thank you

waiting list at kumc

hi priyanka,

i have applied for elective at kumc n am on a waiting list..i am a final year student frm india..wish to go there in feb march 2013..

i have  a few doubts regarding the application process..it would be great if you could help me out with the same...

could i pls get ur email id to enquire abt the same?

Thank you.

hey priyanka.. thats a good

hey priyanka.. thats a good news.. finally i got to hear from someone that he/she did electives at KUMC. hey can i mail you if i want any info? also can u please forward me the contact details of your friend who went there for electives? it would be very kind of you to detail me on certain things. thanks in advance. :)

Hi viraat... thanks a lot for

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Hi viraat... thanks a lot for your kind words... congrats for your acceptance... As far as I know it is a good university... I think you should start your visa application asap... if u got accepted at some other places, you can show the acceptance letter during interview to make your case stronger...

I am very busy these days and won't be replying to anymore queries. Apologies for any inconvenience and thank you for your understanding. All the best.

thanks umar bhai, i'll do

thanks umar bhai, i'll do that. so getting accepted at many places makes ur case stronger?

I think so...

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I think so...

I am very busy these days and won't be replying to anymore queries. Apologies for any inconvenience and thank you for your understanding. All the best.

Regarding Sponsor for henry ford

Sir, could you plz explain me in detail as to how do i find a sponsor in Henry Ford???
PLEASE explain me in detail as i m desperste to go for electives at Henry Ford. What shud i write in teh mail??
THe link which you had provided is not opening.
Thanks.

 Hi Piyush, thanks a lot for

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 Hi Piyush, thanks a lot for pointing out the error. I have updated the link; please visit the mentioned link now. Thanks!

I am very busy these days and won't be replying to anymore queries. Apologies for any inconvenience and thank you for your understanding. All the best.

University of Vermont School of Medicine

I just checked with their website and they say that they would only accept LCME accredited US Medical School students and Canadian school students

http://www.med.uvm.edu/studentaffairs/TB1+RL.asp?SiteAreaID=555

Thanks for updating Ayaz,

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Thanks for updating Ayaz, they might not be accepting any more international visiting students as mentioned on this link!

I am very busy these days and won't be replying to anymore queries. Apologies for any inconvenience and thank you for your understanding. All the best.

University of toronto query for immigration medical examination

Hi umarbhai & others, I have got accepted for university of toronto in march for an elective in forensic psychiatry. I had to go to orthwestern university in february for another elective..Till then i wasn't getting any confirmation from university of toronto. But I still had hope, that i would get the elective, but i was running out of time in visa. So I applied well in advance for a visitor's visa for canada. After I applied and got the visa, I got acceptance from UoT. Now they write me an email that I will be requiring to undergo a immigration medical examination which will b required of me at the time of entry to canada. Now I already have the visa, so how should I go about it. Is there any1 who has done past electives at UoT or is gonna join me in march or would b goin in feb.

Q: Does the college ask you when you report them for electives, whether you gave the immigration medical examination or not ?

Q: If you enter Canada under reason that you want to meet your relatives, will it be ok if i am not able to give the exam.

Q: What is the exact way for applying this medical examination , in case u have the visas b4 handed bcoz I hav emailed the consulate, but they haven't replied back. Plus they don't answer on phone, they say to write an email. I am running out of time as I am leaving India on 27th and incase I don't get to do any medical examination, can i b under trouble because I already hav the visa and can enter canada with the purpose to meet relatives. The concern is if I will have any explaining to do to Elective office on 1st day.

 

Any past student will be best to guide me on this.

 

Thanx in advance

1. You have to get your

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1. You have to get your medical examination done and you have to submit it once you reach Canada.

2. You MUST have your medical examination done in either case.

3. You can be in trouble if you dont have medical examination done. Visit the following two links

http://www.canadainternational.gc.ca/united_kingdom-royaume_uni/visas/me...

http://www.cic.gc.ca/dmp-md/medical.aspx

Enter your continent and country at the bottom of the webpage of the second mentioned link. Look for the medical officer/ hospital in your city and call them to make an appointment.

For your ease, I am posting the links of designated medical practitioners in Pakistan & India (as I don't know which country you belong to).

http://www.cic.gc.ca/dmp-md/medicalinfo.aspx?CountryID=1999&CountryName=...

http://www.cic.gc.ca/dmp-md/medicalinfo.aspx?CountryID=1995&CountryName=...

You can also look for your country from this link http://www.cic.gc.ca/dmp-md/medical.aspx in case you are not living in Pakistan or India.

I am very busy these days and won't be replying to anymore queries. Apologies for any inconvenience and thank you for your understanding. All the best.

Thank you umarbhai 4 such a

Thank you umarbhai 4 such a quick reply.

Actually the link you gave above is for UK and the elective co-ordinator said that "Generally these immigration medical examinations are required for those country that participate in Visa waiver program". When I asked, what about me as I come from country where vis has to be obtained ? She said consult your consulate.

The consulate people hav still not replied me. Can I give similar medical examination once I enter USA if I need to.

And another problem is that I know the doctors where I can get my medical examination done, but these doctors say that I need a letter from consulate stating that "Do medical examination of this guy"

I am really in a fix

You need to have separate

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You need to have separate medical examinations for USA and Canada...

Only the consulate people can help you / guide further!

How did u get visa for Canada? Did you apply on basis of your UofT electives?

I am very busy these days and won't be replying to anymore queries. Apologies for any inconvenience and thank you for your understanding. All the best.

No Umarbhai, I was running

No Umarbhai, I was running out of time as I wasn't getting any acceptance from Toronto in time..So I thought I would apply for visa in advance..Then if i don't get elective, its ok but if i get acceptance late, then I don't hav to worry about visas by then..So I applied on tourism basis..after i got my visas, I got acceptance from UoT where they said that such examination is required. And I am leaving for Usa this months end..So is it possible to undergo canadian medical examination in usa, if i m not able 2 take it while I m in india

I really wish some1 who has done past electives in UoT or anywhere in canada gives some input 4 this thing.

I am telling you all this

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I am telling you all this after talking to few of my friends who went to UofT. You cannot do electives on tourism visa, according to the best of my knowledge. You need to have a temporary resident visa for medical electives as far as I know and medical examination is required for all. Please visit the following two links

http://www.canadainternational.gc.ca/united_kingdom-royaume_uni/visas/wo... (and read the section health-care students)

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/work/apply-who-nopermit.asp#health

For the record, students from Pakistan and India, are not exempted from temporary resident visa requirement.

I am very busy these days and won't be replying to anymore queries. Apologies for any inconvenience and thank you for your understanding. All the best.

NIH elective

 Hi Umar,

I really owe a lot to this website....got 3 months of electives on hand!

I read that you did a rotation at NIH...How was the experience? I've got Infectious Disease elective there in April and would like to know if you have any tips for me....

Is housing available at walking distance/closeby? What is expected of a visiting medical student?

Please do advice.

Thanks a lot!

Hi Priyanka Thanks a lot for

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Hi Priyanka

Thanks a lot for your kind words... congrats on your multiple acceptances...

I went to the Hem-Onco dept... it was a great experience... most of the people I know get accepted in Inf. Disease... seems like Inf. Disease people are extremely friendly to foreign medical students...

Your duty varies from department to department... you generally follow a fellow...

There is no housing available nearby... if there is... it is extremely expensive... I stayed at a place about 1-2 miles away from NIH and you can get a bus about 100 m away that drops you right in front of NIH... it was good for me...

I am very busy these days and won't be replying to anymore queries. Apologies for any inconvenience and thank you for your understanding. All the best.

NIH visa requirement

Hi Umar,

I'm headed to NIH for an elective next month..but a problem with my visa cropped up...

I have a B1/B2 multiple entry visa & entered the US to do 3 months of electives and give my step 2 CS..at the port of entry, I requested the immigration officer to stamp B1 visa as NIH had specifically asked for it..he said that B1 visa can be given for only 90days and my stay was exceeding that so he has to stamp a B2 for me...when I insisted n showed him the NIH letter, he explained that since my visa is B1/B2, NIH should not have a problem accepting me...

Now 2 weeks before my rotation, I get an email from NIH that B2 stamp on I-94 will not be accepted. I explained what happened to them. They said I can still participate in the NIH CEP but my duties will be limited to observing!

Can u please tell me how much this will affect my elective? Please suggest what I should do..

Thanks.

B1 visa issues

Hi Priyanka
I'd like to know what happened finally about the b1 visa issue.
I intend to go to the us for 3 electives and to give step 2 cs early next year. My second elective is at NIH so I'd really like to know if you have any advice on this regard.
What was your place of entry into the us?
Thanks

It means you won't be allowed

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It means you won't be allowed to touch/examine the patient or assist any procedure... it wud be an observership... I think medisid can giude u regarding visa...

I am very busy these days and won't be replying to anymore queries. Apologies for any inconvenience and thank you for your understanding. All the best.

John Hopkins university & mount sinai

Thanks Umar for all ur effort...ur door is the only door which I  can knock when in trouble.  

1. John Hopkins University has not listed the dates of electives (elective calender), so how we are supposed to fill dates in application form???  Can I fill any date

2. Mount Sinai requires usmle waiver, my dean not agreeing to provide it. Can I have this waiver from any faculty member as u mentioned?? (in website they said waiver letter should be from dean)

 hi ravinder... thanks for

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 hi ravinder... thanks for your kind words....

1. u provide your own electives dates for JHUSOM!

2. USMLE step 1 waiver has to be provided by dean.

tc and best of luck!

I am very busy these days and won't be replying to anymore queries. Apologies for any inconvenience and thank you for your understanding. All the best.

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