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List of Universities for International Medical Students(Pak/Ind in particular)

by Usman Sattar

 1-University of rochecter.(good toefl scores-24 min. on speaking mandatory,max.of 3 rotations,F-1 required but expensive 375$/week and competitive plus NYSED requirements but of the few univeristy programmes that don't require step1 as yet.   http://www.urmc.rochester.edu/education/md/prospective-students/cached/information-application.cfm )

2-NIH (needs to get exceptional scores on TOEFL even 26-speaking would not
guarantee any spot+apply very early and have brilliant academic
career-said by Vicki Malick in 2010 P.S=if your scores are in %,write it as it is in gpa/pass & write in grading system pass/fail, This institute have become one of the most toughest to get into purely due to number of good applicants it attracts, but you never know.    https://www2.cc.nih.gov/apps/publicForms/cep/forms/cepApp.aspx )

3-Yale (Very good coordinators to say the least but requires lots of
money+ IMG friendly offer H1-B as well , overall really expensive 2500$ tuition fee per month+1000$-for furnished accomodations per month in campus, step1 & toefl still not mandatory if you are competent enough in "american language".....kidding...."English"     http://medicine.yale.edu/globalhealth/international/index.aspx  )

4-Harvard (needs to be lucky,brainy and rich to go there,100$/elective processing fees & 3700$ fees per elective effective from sept. 2011 as fees increase every sept. so be quick lest they should hit 4000 bucks next year but provides its own malpractice ins. and doesn't always except but as you know,top institution,Toefl is not as such mandatory but is plus if you provide but still would have to undergo telephonic interview like weill cornell irrespective. They have some additional docs like letter from dean/registrar stating that you have completed all requisites reaching that particular elective and criminal record form which u will have fun filling !!!! http://www.hms.harvard.edu/registrar/app.html   )

5-Emory (step1 become mandatory as of 2010,requirements for each elective rotation is different so check out their catalog before applying and they have mostly 1 spot for each month,so hurry up and good luck.also offers H1-B for match   https://emorymed.emory.edu/Public/CurriculumPublicPages/CourseInformation.aspx   )

6-University of Wisconsin ("cheese state"-have very wierd requirements
like "u must have 1 month of prior US experience+evaluation before
applying & faculty sponsor from ur own home school& from uni of
wisc-for surgery only, also every dept has different requirements.plus its been long time since i ve heard that they take intl med students,probably not taking anymore.so
good luck if u find them   http://www.med.wisc.edu/education/visiting-students/eligibility-requirements-international/379  )

7-Weill Cornell (need to apply atleast 10 months ago bcz spots are 1
or 2 every month and competition is extremely fierce thesedays,I know
bcz i lost my 100$ once for applying 7 months before plus they alot
electives as applications roll in but thesedays processing fees have gone upto 200$ & 2000$ tuition fees and same NYSED requirements for state of NY + good letter of intent and academic
record is vital http://med.cornell.edu/international/for_int_stu/index.html?name1=International+Health+Interest+Group&type1=2Active  )

8-Northwestern ( brilliant personal statement, LOR from faculty and
Toefl scores of 84 with 24 on speaking & max of 8 weeks are offered,processing fees of 125$ for one application and 225$ for two applications i.e;two electives -see all requirements from site,its pretty staight
farward   http://www.feinberg.northwestern.edu/AWOME/visiting-students/  )

9-NYU (key is your application should reach on very first day of application reception,i did the same & my  courier reached at 9am on 12th april 2010 but they replied via letter that they are unable to accommodate in my choices i;e cardio,gastro and onco......probably they were very competitive and already filled by american students who were scheduled first. From 2011 onwards,they will offer only one elective spot for IMG's ....good luck   http://www.med.nyu.edu/registrar/electives/requirements_non_lcme.html  )

10-Uni of Massacheusttes (first find out if your school has affiliation
with them or not bcz they offer rotations to affiliated schools,KEMU has affiliation for sure,rest of you should find out http://www.umassmed.edu/studentaffairs/electives/international.aspx?linkidentifier=id&itemid=107122  )

11-Uni of Cincinnati ( requires departmental approval before you apply
and dept will forward application to registrar,reasonable fees of 250 bucks and step1 is waived for german,jordan and singapore students   http://www.med.uc.edu/medical/MedEd/Visiting/index.cfm  )

12-Brown Alpert,Rhode Island (as already said offers only to few med schools from
india and pakistan and dean needs to contact their dean for electives !! plus super expensive like Harvard   http://med.brown.edu/students/international/  )

13-Uni of Louisville,Kentucky (only to Agha khan and Dow in pak and various
other colleges from india,egypt etc see their site but requires j-1
which is very tricky...   http://medicalstudentaffairs.louisville.edu/visiting-student-clerkships  )

14-Sunny Downstate (used to be my first preference as some of seniors
did electives in gastro,endo&hemo there in early 2009 without toefl and
step1 and when i saw it in 2009 fall,it said no IM rotations are
offered there, but still u can get EM,Pediatrics,Derma,OB/GYN and
Ortho rotations there plus "they require step1 & toefl as of 2010"-no exceptions   http://sls.downstate.edu/registrar/visiting/international/index.html  )

15-Mount Sinai (processing fees has shot upto 1000 bucks(300$ previously) effective Jan1 2012 and fees per month
is 2000$(500$ previously),separate dean's letter for step1 exemption
plus require 22-30 on each toefl category ...+ Ms.Persaud is extremely busy often
replies late,so be patient.I ve heard that some students from pak got there on b1/b2 but you need to have I-20 and all F-1 docs plus discuss with kyoko tirado but i think now there are no exceptions to F-1 visa   http://www.mssm.edu/education/student-resources/registrar/electives/foreign-visiting-students  )

16-Baylor college of medicine (key is e-mail/fax them with your
particulars(listed on website) very early to get your registration
no. as there is specific quota to every country,their fee was
500$/month in 2009 but has doubled it effective 2010 but advantage is
that it gives its own malpractice ins. 25$,i think & disadvantage is
hafty health ins 228$/month and F-1 just for one month   http://www.bcm.edu/registrar/?pmid=7504  )

17-Duke, North Carolina ( great place but expensive,step1 mandatory   http://medschool.duke.edu/modules/som_registrar/index.php?id=4  )

18-Case western resrve Uni (step1 mandatory, great place and not very
expensive as well plus offers H1-B to IMG's esp st.vincent charity and
metrohealth programs   http://casemed.case.edu/registrar/applications/index.cfm  )

19-Cleveland clinic Foundation (step1 mandatory- all branches are good places,florida branch has
tough requirement that your Dean should contact directly medical board
of florida prior to applying . Offers both electives and observerships to med students so be sure what are you applying for.  http://my.clevelandclinic.org/florida/education/medical_students_elective_rotation_program.aspx  )

20-Mayo (step1 mandatory with good marks ,another great place + all 3
place are great but florida branch has same requisite as mentioned for
clevelend,   http://www.mayo.edu/msgme/clerkships.html  )

21-Uni of Alabama (its website can distract you(look like some cheerleaders' training camp..kidding) but you should contact
program coordinator of school of medicine,when i contacted her in 2010,she
said that u need to have a strong faculty sponsor for that specific
elective,need step1 plus "tricky J-1 Visa  http://medicine.uab.edu/education/48419/  )

22-Albert Einstein college of medicine (step1 mandatory,100 bucks per elective-max. of 3 rotations, F-1 visa is mandatory and offers only to 5 affiliate institutions, no Pak or Ind school is eligible   http://www.einstein.yu.edu/registrar/page.aspx?ID=3890&ekmensel=412_submenu_2042_btnlink  )

23-Wayne state uni (step1 mandatory,max of 3 electives  http://www.med.wayne.edu/student_affairs/records_registration/electives/2010_pdfs/Instructions%20for%20International%20Students.pdf  )

24-Albany (good for some affiliated schools in India but no Pakistani
school is affiliated and i think currenty they are taking no visiting med students   http://www.amc.edu/academic/undergraduate/VisitingStudents.html  )

25-Tufts (expensive,tough but great offers H1-B for the residency   http://www.tufts.edu/med/about/offices/osa/visitingstudentinfo.html  )

26-Thomas Jefferson University (application material and requirements
are not given on site, u should request them from student
coordiantor/registrar,i got the application but i didn't apply there....great
place with managable expenses i.e;75$ processing 750$/month  http://www.jefferson.edu/oies/rotations_electives.cfm  )

27-Memorial sloan ketring cancer center (step1 mandatory as of
2010.....no exception as i talked to the coordinator plus apply very
early bcz of online application process,american students can occupy all spots.Its good for surgical specialities mostly.  http://www.mskcc.org/mskcc/html/2638.cfm  )

28-Uni of pennsylvania (as stated in old list,accepts students from selected med schools   http://www.med.upenn.edu/globalhealth/intl_students.shtml  )

29-Southwestern medical center (its requirements are tough & step1 mandatory plus "just look at depts that
don't take international students"good if you can find dept other than them) P.S=uni of texas Dallas and southwestern med center is same thing  http://www.utsouthwestern.edu/utsw/cda/dept20676/files/397167.html  .

30-East Carolina Uni (i m not sure but carolinas haven't been friendly
for offering rotations to IMS so this one also requires step1 and
various other super-requirements that i don't personally like for IMG
friendly institutions but good luck if u meet them plus they aren't taking IMG's for 2011-12 electives,better luck in 2012-13  http://www.ecu.edu/cs-dhs/bsomstudentaffairs/BSOM_Visiting-Students.cfm  )

31-Uni of Texas Medical Branch-UTMB (requires F-1 visa and 100$ per elective is required, you have to ask about your eligilbilty from the coordinator.....i and my friend in QAMC asked in 2009 and we were turned down but i think some egyptian students got in...... http://www.utmb.edu/enrollmentservices/prospect/index.html   )

32-Uni of Missouri-kansas city SOM  (only some rotations are offered to international med students, check out their site and send application with immunization form to see if you qualify   http://www.med.umkc.edu/electives/visiting.shtml  ) 

33-Uni of Kansas SOM,Wichita  (max.of 8 weeks electives are offered there,F-1 visa will be sponsored,,Step 1 is required but can be exempted and only 40$ per rotation is charged   http://wichita.kumc.edu/asa/forms/Visiting_Student_App.pdf  )

34-Uni of washington,Seattle (max.of 12 weeks rotations are offered only to affiliated international med school students-see their website,F-1 Visa is required,Toefl,malpractice and health insurance are required, Electives are given only on spaces availability basis   http://uwmedicine.washington.edu/Education/MD-Program/visiting-students/International-Students/Pages/default.aspx  )

35- Uni of New Mexico SOM (needs a faculty sponsor and send acceptance letter from sponsor in application package,Toefl,First 4 weeks are not charged any tuition fee but for next week or so charged 1749.50$/4 weeks payable 60 days prior to start date,some depts require step1 as mandatory and other specific requirements but the most funniest requisite is that you must be a resident of state of new mexico in order to be considered......so,good luck   http://hsc.unm.edu/som/oss/Visiting_Students.shtml  )

NOTE= Information about above mentioned institutes is again updated on 2nd July,2011 and their accurate links are also attached ,any suggestion or mistake correction would always be welcome by me , research and canadian institutions are not included here.


 Personal comments/experiences about the hosp/unis that i excluded

1-Maimonodes Medical college (i applied through online application in fall of 2009 there,my first-ever elective application,in cardio,gastro and radio but Ms.Marshall replied after a month that they don't take international med students anymore plus its explicitly states on their website that they take LCME,AOA and NYSED affiliated schools (handful of foriegn and carribean schools) But "Umar Bhai told me that they do take foriegn students if spot is available but they don't actually claim it....so,choice and luck is entirely yours!  http://www.maimonidesmed.org/Main/ElectiveRotations.aspx  )

2-Henry Ford ( I called student coodinator jan 2010 and she told that they are not taking international students anymore .But still to satisfy my curiosity, i contacted each member of various depts and only few of the replied they too said that they can't sponsor you without Head of Dept.& registrar approval ",anyway,you may try your luck if you want  http://www.henryford.com/body_program.cfm?id=37384  )

3-North Shore/LIJ ( I contacted and sent applications all dept coordinators last year and they were themselves not sure about the policy regarding foriegn students but in 2010 they finally released clerkship list with dept policy yes/No to foriegn students and they only allow you to take electives in Peds,OB/GYN, Ophthamology and PM&R-(my first acceptance came from there but i denied it) and this year Ms.Glenda Cohen,peds coordinator told me that even though they accept intl students now they can't guarentee anything and if accepted an intl student would only be scheduled for one month elective In peds specialities ".New peds coordinator Ms.Camellieri also told me that they now require step1 scores too from July 2011.Moreover, all the applications are processed 5 months before,so, you are actually competing with american students for same spot   http://www.northshorelij.com/NSLIJ/NSLIJ+Elective+Clerkship+Application  )

4-UCSF-radio (Umar bhai said that they take students with greencards only in 2010...which was by far the most difficult requirement for an IMG,anyways, they no longer international med students regardless of their nationalities   http://medschool.ucsf.edu/visitingstudents/departments/radiology.aspx  )

5-UCSD,Davis AND UC Irvine ( few students from germany are reported to go there P.S= california and carolinas have become THE most toughest places for IMG to get electives esp poeple from subcontinent but impossible is nothing ! Plus they have some specific requirements related to depts or institutes,so see for yourself  http://meded.ucsd.edu/ugme/visiting_students/foreign_schools/basic_information/ , http://www.ucdmc.ucdavis.edu/surgery/education/medstudent.html & http://www.som.uci.edu/  respectively)

6-Uni of Chicago Pritzker School of medicine & Rosalind Franklin Uni( told me explicitly in 2009 fall that they would not be able to extend the oppurtunity to foriegn med students to meet the needs of their own med students, so, i guess no more electives in chicago as well  http://pritzker.uchicago.edu/current/students/visiting/process.shtml &  http://www.rosalindfranklin.edu/DNN/home/CMS/MedicalCurriculum/tabid/865/Default.aspx  respectively )

7-Georgetown Uni (" I have seen poeple talking about Georgetown uni but my
junior's elder brother is there in Radiology and he is sponsoring him bcz
he has blood relation,if u have that kind of sponsor then fine plus u
can only work in sponsors dept with sponsor not with any other person plus sponsor would be responsible for any adversity that sponsored person might create and had to get dept approval as well.Recently,i ve seen they aren't taking International students at all  http://som.georgetown.edu/70216.html  )

8-Louisiana state uni and Tulane (no longer takes international med students so i guess no more electives in New Orleans ,http://www.medschool.lsuhsc.edu/student_affairs/electives.aspx &  http://tulane.edu/som/StudentAffairs/visiting-students.cfm  respectively)

9- Vermont ( doesn't take international,carribbean or even osteopathic med students regardless of their affiliation   http://www.med.uvm.edu/StudentAffairs/TB1+RL.asp?SiteAreaID=555  )

10-Uni of Virginia (Doesn't take any international med student but if someone wants to sponsor a student then he/she has to ask the student affairs him/herself and only then your case would be considered.......but chances are very limited but good luck if someone can do it for you .100$ per elective  http://www.med-ed.virginia.edu/handbook/electives/visiting/   )

11-Ochsner Clinic Foundation (for the past year or so many of med students have asked about that,let me tell you explicitly that they are no longer taking any international medical students including canadian/carribbean/peurto rican due to their affiliation to both Tulane university & LSU plus University of Queensland,Australia students ,also they have only one spot for each rotation and you would have complete responsibilty of your patient like interns unlike other institutes where they alow even 4-5 students in one rotation  http://academics.ochsner.org/electives.aspx?id=1514  )

12-Univeristy of Pittsburgh,PA (accepts students from certain England,German and some east asian countries, check out if you are from those places plus very expensive   http://www.medschool.pitt.edu/somsa/AboutInter.html  )

    Hope this updated list would help you further.

  Best Of Luck to all aspirants............Usman Sattar.

buddybest (not verified)

Tue, 09/06/2011 - 16:17

hello usman bhai,

First thank you for the updated info regarding electives.

Iam an intern in India, have given toefl: R-28,L-27,S-23, W-25

and in the process of preparing required documents.

But bhai as i have inquired through mails and calls, right now i am having only 2 places where i can send my application (weill cornell and tufts) others are either filled or they are not accepting applications from indian students. 

 I have not given step 1 . will you please tell me any more colleges where i can apply .

My internship will be completed in march 2012 , i am worried that i am very late this year for applying as most of the medical colleges are filled by now.

hi.. hmmm.. i would say it is indeed too late to apply fr this year.. i applied to several univs this year..
my toefl score was abt 114 with 28 in speaking. applied nih , cornell, jefferson , tulane, lsuhsc, NYU , lijmc, kumc  ----- applied all 8-9 months earlier.. all rejected !

dunno, whats wrong this year.. i hardly knpow anyone who got electives this year.. did anyone get in???
guess most colleges are full for this year till march atleast... apply for dates later than march or apply in expensive colleges like harvard, tufts, brown univ.

raj kundra (not verified)

Sat, 09/10/2011 - 16:42

hello usman

I want to know if there's much difference between research and clinical electives?and what should we opt for if given the choice?

Is LOR's manageable in research elective as well?


And also wanted to know if u have any idea as how soon should we send application for cleveland clinica I want to apply for february 1st week next year will it give them enough time to process if i send my application now?

hands on clinical electives are always better than research electives and u can LOR's with both of them. For application,the earlier the better !!! there is no hard and fast rule,it depends on your luck and no of vacancies available for that period of time !!!!!!

Visitor (not verified)

Thu, 09/15/2011 - 18:04


Hey all..


I had sent two applications (75$ each)  to jefferson and called up the registrar office to enquire about my status..

 they said they no longer accept visiting students! what  do you suggest .. should I ask for a refund?

bad luck for me as well...

as you said in your other post.. I also applied those universities n got rejection though sending application 9-10 months in advance n with TOEFL score of 115..   :( waiting for reply from jefferson

donno whats the matter... n I have not heard anyone getting accepted.. I think it has become extremely difficult to get electives...

Visitor (not verified)

Sun, 09/18/2011 - 10:32

Hello,


In the applcation for LSU, what are we supposed to write against " Mail evaluation to: "

Kindly help

Visitor (not verified)

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 08:51

hi..

is it too ate to apply for feb elect now?i am still getting my documents together...anyone got in yet anywhre???elect aj kal milna itna difficult ho gaya hai...so how about jus odin externship later on??

its never too late to apply so,keep looking for electives,i would say . Yes,electives have become very difficult thesedays but they are authentic hands on clinical experience. Externships are very expensive and even more scare than electives and how hands on clinical they provide can be questionable but also they are better than nothing......so good luck !

dinesh (not verified)

Sat, 10/22/2011 - 17:24

Usman bhai I ve been a follower of ur posts from so long….first of all thanks for answering all of our queries with such patience…. Regarding my query A radiology fellowship professor from university of Alabama came to our college recently……. I ve impressed him to some extent by giving an introductory speech about him….. After the lecture I met him and asked if he could provide me an elective at UAB….. he told that it is difficult for him to provide an elective there….then I said to him that it is mentioned in the UAB website that if you could get a letter of support from the faculty member of UAB u can do an elective here….he said that it might have mentioned like that in the website but it may not be true, if it is true then I will definitely help u….he gave his visiting card and said I can mail him at any time if I need help……. 1) So would u tell me if university of Alabama is accepting imgs? 2) In the website it is also mentioned that they want the students to come on a j1 visa to do the elective? Is the 2 year home country rule also applicable to this too? 3) How can the prof be of help to me in other ways?

when i contacted the UAB coordinator,she told me to get the dept sponsor first in which i want to do elective. This J-1 is short time scholar so i don't think it would have 2 yrs home country restriction thing attached with it but it can be little tricky to convince the visa officer for J-1 category for electives but that still a long shot at this time.Anyway ,the best way to use sponsor is to have him contact the coordinator about you and get info on process of sponsoring and go from there.......GL

thank u usman.....

i have been waiting for ur reply....

i ve contacted the coordinator she told the same....but the professor i know he is not in the course catalog....i mean there in the website they ve given the list of electives and from whom we should get the letter of support to do that elective....In that list his name is not there....



well,in that case,i m not sure what the next best thing to do,may be you should take this issue up with your sponsor directly or someone else on this forum can suggest anything for you But usually speaking they are very strict regarding their elective policy thesedays..... I ve very busy schedule thesedays so that causing delays sometimes,i m sorry for that ........ GL.

No problem brother....replying us to each and every question we pose with a detailed explanation itself is a great thing to do.. bhai i m so happy he finally said he can provide me an elective in radiology dept......would this elective be helpful for me in future to do a residency in internal medicine..? And regarding the j1 visa i ve visited so many sites and failed to get adequate information.....nobody said there is an exception of the 2 yr home country rule for the electives....what ld u suggest me to do? this j1 visa thing is killing me...i should probably ask the elective coordinator directly......

sure man, go for it, radiology is intermediary field that covers both surgery and medicine in some ways.......after all,its better than nothing.......congrats !!!!

No problem  usman bhai....Replying  to all our messages with such patience itself is a great thing to do....

i ve asked the elective coordinator at uab about this 2 year home country rule.... She told that they cannot do anything about this and Its the visa counselor at the consulate is who decides about this during the visa interview......

I dont know what to do this rule is killing me....
maybe i should drop the elective.....

On the other side the professor is asking me  to tell the months in which i m interested in doing the elective.....

If it’s an internal medicine elective I ld not ve thought this much...But it’s a radiology elective….

It’s a 4 week radiology elective at uni of Alabama,j1 visa,2 year home country rule…..considering all this u suggest me what to do……

Visitor (not verified)

Fri, 11/18/2011 - 11:47

Can anyone please get a new list of of universities that accept IMG's for their residency programs...That would help in applying to specific places that are IMG friendly..

Visitor (not verified)

Tue, 11/29/2011 - 20:28

Hello everyone,

I have a doubt, does any anyone have got Neurology electives in SUNY Downstate? have any1 applied for neurology their?

Plz reply, I want to apply for it, & the university site has not clearly mentioned whether they allow international students for Neuro...

neel fotedar (not verified)

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 17:13

Hello friends... i m aspiring for usmle... i m from india.... i haven't given anysteps yet... i m in 4th year right now... if i follow my plan, most probably i will apply for my reisdency in 2014 or 2015... long way to go.... but recent reports r scaring me to death... decrease in number of residency spots n they r saying that it will be nearly impossible for imgs to get residency 2013 onwards... is this true?? if it is, what options do we have? should we drop the idea of usmle or do we need to put some extra efforts like research n USCE to ensure that we get a residency spot... u all are experienced here.. please advise me.. i will be really thankful

neel fotedar (not verified)

Sun, 12/04/2011 - 17:58

Usman bhai... i wanted to ask one more question.... what do u think about the university of nevada school of medicine as an option for clerkship.. is it IMG friendly?? and what are the requirements??


Nevada is not quite an img friendly place but if you are mexican and have connections there then it is possible bit like California & New Mexico. I m not aware of its clerkship program for IMG's if there is one.You can contact them directly about that situation.

Visitor (not verified)

Tue, 12/06/2011 - 12:40

hi,Usman bhai.Thanks for the info you keep providing.I wanna apply for the month of feb and march2012.Is that too late for me now to apply?.I gave my toefl 3rd of december 2011 which means i l get the result on 18/12/11.what universities you would suggest me to apply for? 

I m afraid its gone be late now for feb-march '12. If you apply now ,you will have better shot for June-july-aug period,moreover,it depends on place where you wana apply and toefl scores if it requires toefl.....GL.

Ahmed (not verified)

Thu, 12/15/2011 - 13:00

plz help me two matters


1. I applied to Sloan Kettering (MSKCC). i recieved an email from them that my applicaion is in 2nd  stage of review and they will conduct a telephone interview where an attending will talk to me about elective interests. Has anyone had a similar interview? what should i expect to be asked?


2. my full application with all the relevant documents reached Cleveland clinic on nov 22. I applied for a march-april elective. I have since emailed Pat Gasser twice and asked bout my application but recieved no reply. How long does it usually take for her reply? nd if accepted when will they notify?


Thank you, plz do help

avash22 (not verified)

Thu, 12/15/2011 - 15:46

hey usman bhai ,

i am a 4th year student in india..will give my step 1 in april..want to apply for mayo clinic..they are asking for 48 hours of clincal clerkship..i wish to pursue clerkship before my internship.are there any chance,i maen what shall i write in 48 hours core clerkship??the time i spent in wards in 2nd and 3rd year??


yes,clerkships done in any year of your academic career would do.....i assume you would have done more than 48 hrs of clerkship so,you are good to go. Just ask them which core clerkship they are asking for specifically .GL

John (not verified)

Fri, 12/30/2011 - 00:04

Hi all

 please do you have any information about Uni of Connecticut? it has been written in their website that they won't accept international students anymore, but I heard that I still could send the application.

I would apply for August 2012

thanks

John,i m bit skeptical about uni of CT coz i think they are no longer taking any international med student but you can get info from their coordinator about their current policy but they seldome reply which is another downside of them,so for august 2012,i would say ,also apply at another university/Hosp as an alternative.....GL

Assalamualaikum,

    Thank you so much for your help. 

1. However, is there any uni's that is int student friendly for student esp when they dont have step 1 results like me??

2. My elective dates most probably will be on March to April next year.. When is the best time for me to apply for my elective??and it is better for me to take my toefl now rite?

3. How will it effect my results on getting a place if I only take my step 1 after I apply for the elective?Can i still apply to a new unis then?? 

4. Im worried to take the risk now since my college do not have any long holidays currently. So I plan to either take it during a -little-hectic- postings or during my internship. When is the best time for me to take my step 1 since I heard that there is cut off points for step 1 for each specialty? 

Thank you so much for your help!!


Visitor (not verified)

Fri, 01/06/2012 - 04:25

Hello,

First of all thank you for running a wonderful site.. I am done with 6 months of internship in India and now in UNC, Chapel hill for electives. I will be going back in March to India and continue my internship. If I had not done this 4 months electives in USA, I would have graduated in March 2012. But, now I will be done with Internship in August and want to apply this year itself for residency. I am not sure if I can get degree certificate ( i believe i required for ECFMG cerfication ) and be ready to apply by September 1st, 2012. 

Also I have given my step 1 in 3rd year (2009) and got a low score (226/94). I will be finishing my CS before going back and plan to give CK in India before I apply. 

Now since I have explained my situation, let me ask few questions that are bothering me a lot

- How important is it that I should apply next year itself ? I considered to apply because I was told by many that it is better if I apply soon after i graduate.

- My electives are going great and i am able to manage to get decent LORs. Should i ask for a waived or un waived letters at this point? does it make a huge difference?

- With my present scores and say 250-260 in step 2, will I be able to get a university program in Internal Medicine or atleast a decent community affiliated?

Ok, I hope I have not burdened you too much with my questions. I would be really great if you can reply despite your busy schedule.

Thank you. 

you questions are kind of tricky but its better to apply as early as possible but that can't be possible all the times.For the graduation degree/certificate you can ask your school about the process and how soon can they issue it. For LOR's ,its better to get them waived but if its not possible then either one is fine. And match process in good program is has lot more to do with luck and other things besides good or average scores and your step1 scores are that bad at all........so,keep it up and GL !

Trisha (not verified)

Wed, 01/11/2012 - 17:26

Hi!

I just wanted to know..how useful would a one-month clerkship in "clinical neurology" from Yale University would be in getting a IM/Pediatrics residency?






Its better than absolutely nothing so,i would say go for it even for IM/Peds residency but ideally you should grab elective of specialty in which you wana do your residency in.

sasha (not verified)

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 04:09


hi

usman bhai thanks for helping thousands of aspirants with such patience and zeal,

I am currently doing my internship in india, and applying for clerkship,

I have color blindness,is this going to be a hurdle while getting residency?

pls help me. I am really stressed about this thing, I want to get residency in IM later on, not in surgical branches.

well,i don't think its gona be a big issuw for you esp. when you are applying for non-surgical fields like IM.....So,i would say don't stress you out about that and concentrate on real matters.

arslan (not verified)

Tue, 01/31/2012 - 18:21

Hi, I wanted to ask what in ur opinion is the best time for pak med students to go for n elective? Nd secondly how much weightage does n observership gets when v apply for residency specially if v r applying at the same hospital where v had done the observership? Thanks :)

i think,best time for pak med student is after the end of 3rd year and in the mid of 4th year after taking step1 . Observership in that situation would certainly be helpful so,that would be good option than nothing at all......GL .

arslan (not verified)

Sun, 02/05/2012 - 18:40

Hi, It will b really appreciated if you could take some time out and share your electives experience and tell us what to expect in a clinical elective. Thanks :)

DR EXXXXXXX (not verified)

Thu, 02/09/2012 - 09:34

Salams usman! i passed my cs on an f1 visa during eletives..so now i  dun hv a cs letter to get a b1/b2 multiple entry visa if I wna go fr unpaid research after steps...wht to do in tht case? im really bothered abt ths ...coz now i recetly graduated and going fr a b1/b2 without cs letter after grad even if i hav a volantry research accep...wil i get a visa? ur advice and do u know any one whus dun the same and then gotten a b1/b2????

you will get your visa again provided you came back within the limits of previously issued F1- visa,Just print out all the relevant material about CS scheduling when going for visa interview......voluntary research is a gamble,you never know when its gona pay off,may be earlier may be late....you ll get b1/b2 even if you are going for shopping spree,all you need is solid reason to go and solid reason to come back !!!! Sorry for the delayed response ,i ve been incredibly busy.......GL.

Radzi (not verified)

Sat, 02/25/2012 - 18:57

Assalamualaikum Usman bhai,

 Thank you for ur reply. I have a few more questions regarding the electives:

1. is there any hospital which is Int Med Student friendly? I am applying without my step 1, so Is there any uni's which is easier to get in?

2. regarding toefl, it is better to sit for it eventho the uni's does not require toefl right? does it increase my chances of getting into my choice of department for elective?

3. I'm planning to take my step 1 maybe around september to december this year as currently my schedule for postings kinda hectic - so i dont really have any time to properly prepare for it. Is it possible for me to apply for my elective - which might be on march to april 2013 - then? I heard there is some cut-off points for step 1 usmle for residency later, is it true?? I plan to specialize in cardiothoracic or neurosurgery, what is the cut-off points for those fields?

Thank you so much Usman bhai, may Allah bless you. 

Radzi

Radzi (not verified)

Tue, 02/28/2012 - 04:11

Assalamualaikum Usman bhai,

 Thank you for ur reply. I have a few more questions regarding the electives:

1. is there any hospital which is Int Med Student friendly? I am applying without my step 1, so Is there any uni's which is easier to get in?

2. regarding toefl, it is better to sit for it eventho the uni's does not require toefl right? does it increase my chances of getting into my choice of department for elective?

3. I'm planning to take my step 1 maybe around september to december this year as currently my schedule for postings kinda hectic - so i dont really have any time to properly prepare for it. Is it possible for me to apply for my elective - which might be on march to april 2013 - then? I heard there is some cut-off points for step 1 usmle for residency later, is it true?? I plan to specialize in cardiothoracic or neurosurgery, what is the cut-off points for those fields?

Thank you so much Usman bhai, may Allah bless you. 

Radzi

sorry brother,couldn't write you reply coz of some problem with site.Ok,so,let me answer one by one.

1- Usually big places(mentioned here) are IMG friendly if you have great scores and done electives in them/some good publications.So,there is no strict criterion. Choices without step1 are very small thesedays,you can try Yale,weill cornell or mount sinai but their policies change dramatically as well so,check them out as well.

2-if uni doesn't require toefl then don't take it....it doesn't make much difference at places that don't require it.

3-you can ask the coordinator of place where you are applying about later submission of step1 score but usually they don't make an exception. For neurosurgery and cardiothoracic,you need great scores more than 250+ and sometimes some good publications to get into good program.

   Hope it will help and sorry again for delayed response......... Best of luck !

Visitor (not verified)

Wed, 02/29/2012 - 15:58

Just called University of Connecticut Health Centre regarding clinical electives. They are no longer accepting foreign medical students or IMG's whatsoever.

shruti (not verified)

Wed, 03/07/2012 - 03:40

hello sir ,

thanks so much for all the help. I just finished my final year in india and would like to ask you a quick question.

My cousin's wife is a 2nd year resident in north shore lij ( emergency medicine). I would like to apply for clerkship for this winter (Peadiatrics / internal medicine ) , which are my fields of interest. I would like to know if she can be of any help in me getting a clerkship in her university in peads/ im. 

and also i have a ten year multiple entry visitors visa , so will that be enough or do we have to have a students visa of any sort Thanks.



Visitor (not verified)

Sat, 03/17/2012 - 13:38

hi, just wanted to know in the section of application for new york university of medicine there is a section for referred by. in that section do we have to write the name of their own faculty or any professor of our own college. plz let me know as they arenot replying to my querry


Visitor (not verified)

Tue, 05/01/2012 - 01:43

Thank you for all the help. I want to know if applying to Brown is a good option? they have mentioned on their most recent application that students will not ask for letters of recommendation from the faculty. It is very expensive and they need the entire tuition with the application itself which of course they will refund if you are not accepted. I am also applying to northwestern and yale so I do not know if I should risk brown

thanks a lot

sujitha (not verified)

Tue, 05/01/2012 - 16:36

hellloo sir,

ive done my mbbs n juss strted my internship 1 month back. im planning to go for clerkship durng aug to sep..ive seen ur info regardng d universities dats really very helpful but most of dem r askng 4 steps n toefl can u pls precise d universities without step 1....

Visitor (not verified)

Thu, 05/24/2012 - 12:13

Hi everyone.  First I want to say thanks for all the information on this website, really a life-saver for so many people!! Thanks for all the hard work :)

Second, I am planning to apply for electives from the months of February to June 2012.  My question is, how early should I apply?  I've been hearing that if you apply too early like (8-10 months), you'll get rejected, so I was thinking applying 5-6 months ahead.  I know some schools have deadlines, but quite a few of them don't so there is no guideline about timing of application.

Those of you that have successfully obtained an elective, how far ahead of time did you guys apply??


Thanks, I really appreciate it! :)

Pooja Devi (not verified)

Wed, 06/06/2012 - 09:55

Hello,  I'm a a fourth year medical student at Ziauddin medical university in Karachi Pakistan.i want to do clinical electives rite after clearing my fourth year, because I'll get 2 months vacation after that . However I must start applying now, so as to be considered for the electives.the application form of almost every university says that the student is currently in final year, therefore I'm unable to apply and my dean is never gonna sign that form, because I'm  not a final year student yet. Plzz help me on this n kindly tell me would this be counted as a

pranav (not verified)

Thu, 07/05/2012 - 19:14

hello, 

i am in my 4th year , and have a vacations for the full month of december 2012,...for which i wanted to go for an elective , but my dean just wont sign  the NOC . so is there any way around it or are their some universities which accept students without clearance from their parent school ?

thanks

navjyotkarda (not verified)

Fri, 08/03/2012 - 19:46

hello sir,

i am a medical student from punjab,presently in  seventh month of my internship at a private medical college. i want to apply for clerkship in united states,i have passed toefl with a score of 88.and i have not given any step of usmle.so please guide me,i am confused searching different universeties.thanking you sir.

taikhoom (not verified)

Wed, 12/12/2012 - 19:32

 hello usman bhai, 

i needed a lil help. I have already got into yale for one month, but i also wanted one or two more electives. I have just given my step 1 and intend to apply now with my step 1 scores along with my application. Please guide me as to which university has the best chances.

thank u in advance

 sallamz, usman bhai.. can u pls help me out from this tension??

i have given my final year mbbs exam just in dec 2012..

now tense that wot should i do?

there is no doctor in my family.. im first so no guidance ..

pls help me..

result is not yet announced..

n i havnt done a single internship:(

tell me wot to do now???

pls pls help me...

i want to do an elective n then step 1 usmle.. 

guide me..............

waiting for ur reply

 

Visitor (not verified)

Fri, 02/15/2013 - 04:29

hello sir,

                   i will start my 4th year of medicine in india this march...i am interested to get an elective in anaesthesiology in mount sinai....when can i start the application? ....how many lor's do i need to get? is one from my dean compulsory?...........i have nt yet taken my toefl or usmle step 1

Visitor (not verified)

Fri, 03/22/2013 - 08:55

 hey salam Sir!

i am currently in 4th year mbbs, and planning to do my electives soon, just need to know that if i am planning to have a carrer in medicine in USA is it necessary that i do my electives in USA, because i may do it in UK, does it make any diffference?

Visitor (not verified)

Mon, 04/22/2013 - 00:32

hello brother.. i am done with step 1 and CS .. and now preparing for CK... I want to do externship or observership in early 2014 for 3 or 4 months.. after my Ck exam.. is there any list like above for externship and observership? that list is for electives only i guess.. please help...

Chan (not verified)

Tue, 05/07/2013 - 21:06

Hello, I am planning to do clerkship in US to widen my experience next year. No TOEFL, No Step 1. Currently studying in Volgograd State Medical University, 2nd year. Prefer in Annapolis, Washington, NY or LA. Kinda like a budget trip. Anyone can enlighten me?

Visitor (not verified)

Tue, 05/21/2013 - 16:10

hii... I am an Indian medical student in my last year of Mbbs i.e. internship, i want to get a clerkship done.. i have not given any of the usmle steps or toefl.. please let me know some universities where i can apply

neepa (not verified)

Sun, 09/08/2013 - 22:33

hi sir , i am looking forward for applying at weill cornell , NY for clinical electives in july /aug 2014 i have three doubts : 1) i didnt find any dates for electives in the period of aug/july 2014 for any electives i did mail the uni but havent got a reply , so i am confused as am i applying earlier ( 11 months still left ) or electives are not available in this time for visiting international students 2) i found electives available for all the subjects and surfed the net and got list of img frindly residency programs , is it true tht other programs imgs cannot get into ? like dermat / obs/gyn thank you for your time 3) also with applying at weill cornell can i apply at other universities as there are limited posts for electives

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